Are you sure it wasn’t a DF series truck? I think the IFS was the biggest leap too far, as you said issues were pretty much inevitable. Just like American cars started to lose their status to the imports, the Big Three’s big trucks also started to lose image and status compared to the independents. [1] In 1975, GMC introduced a Dragfoiler roof spoiler as an option. Although the DLR8000 had a short and unsuccessful life, the more conventional DF Series crackerboxes had a reasonably successful career on the highways of America, but it would never enjoy the dominant market share its predecessors did in previous decades.
Very rare,although built in large volumes unlike the DLR8000. This fun and decorative handmade metal sign will look great in your home, office or garage!
Never knew these started life with an IFS, 4 corner air, and such a frame. As a former truck driver, I’m in in awe of the cramped, sparce cab, the noise of the big Detroit under your bum and the bone shaking over-axle driving position.
From some press releases and other snippets, I’ve become increasingly convinced that the DFR8000 (right, in the brochure cover) version was likely never actually built in production. Even countries like Spain, the Netherlands, Finland, Austria and Switzerland had their own heavy trucks (Pegaso, Barreiros, DAF, Sisu, Steyr, Saurer). And if you had a bad airbag, it looked like the one in the photo. Once GM became fat and happy in the mid 1950’s, it failed to appreciate that it was actually highly vulnerable, on all fronts. These are trucks I only knew about in passing so it’s nice to read an in-depth look.
The sleeper cab added a mere 24″ length; it’s not visible here, but the 30″ wide mattress makes a jog behind the driver’s seat, narrowing it down to 22″. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The variety of wheelbases, axle types, engine and transmission combinations available is mind boggling. Folks weren’t happy with the IFS issues, and tended to junk them early. The only redeeming feature was being low it was easy to get in and out of. Instead of listening to the market, they now appear to answer to the management team, with their profitability and margin the deciding factor over all. One observation is that, in the US and the UK, companies can be car builders or truck builders.
American Brands: AMC, Jeep and All Others, Tractors, Lawn Mowers, Off-Road Equipment, Truckstop Classic: 1959-1961 GMC DLR8000 “Crackerbox” – GM’s Deadly Sin #32 – Turns Out the Most Advanced Semi Truck In the World Wasn’t What Truckers Really Wanted. If you lived in Florida, you could save a bit of money. Although Volvo GM would continue sales of COE trucks under the White GMC and Western Star brands (the WhiteGMC WH and Western Star Cabover; both versions of the White Road Commander II), the GMC Astro was never directly replaced by Volvo GM, Volvo, or General Motors.
Under the joint venture, GMC trucks were phased out in favor of White-designed Volvo GM products. I sold GMC light, medium and heavy-duty trucks and also have sold Internationals, White, White-GMC (anybody remember those? Agreed also about that frame: it was clearly designed for the IFS. The odds of there being both a restored DFR8000 and DFR8100 at one show are infinitesimally small, even if they were actually ever made.
This was a very tightly-speced truck for very specific applications. I just got Dave Dudley’s “Six Days on the Road” in my head…just passed a Jimmy and a White! The General was a decent truck but it was to expensive for the every day truck. The technology came straight from the buses. They were tall and rather intimidating looking, so utilitarian and stark, and as such very easily identifiable. Update: looked it it closer in magnification, and more sure than ever that it’s not an air ride. A five speed Spicer “synchromesh overdrive” transmission teamed with a two-speed Eaton rear axle. If left to the dedicated teams, the product is usually better and sells more. Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. The DLR8000 was a clean sheet design from the frame up.
For that brief period form the late 1950s to the early 1960s GM seemed to be very open to trying new ideas. There was no twin rear axle version, and very few options.
Some folks claim the legendary 702 inch V12 “Twin Six” was available in the crackerbox, but that’s not actually the case. Thanks again.
2008 Ford LCF - 22ft BOX TRUCK - Diesel Cabover - 53k miles. And as we’ll see later, by 1960 a very conventional “crackerbox” with its cab over the axle like the DFR 8000 was added, which quickly became the only version offered. Good point about GM executives moving around a lot, this is still the case at Ford and GM at least.
But wow, it looks really uncomfortable to operate. We take intellectual property concerns very seriously, but many of these problems can be resolved directly by the parties involved. Located in chicago, Illinois. It’s an excellent piece of engineering. In this case, the failure of the DLR8000 directly led to the GMC Truck division’s terminal decline in the heavy duty field. The GMC Astro ceased production after the 1987 model year (coincidentally, two years after Chevrolet launched a van with the same name). That’s not the issue. Detroit diesels were another problem, no longer competitive with Cat and Cummins. The set-back front axle version (like the DLR) was not offered on this new series. I just re-watched Smokey and the Bandit with my Grandson over the weekend he was amazed to see all the Ford, Chevy, GMC and Dodge branded transport trucks he had no idea had ever existed. It could haul over a ton of extra payload capacity thanks to its light weight, it was highly efficient and was the most comfortable for its driver.
The GMC Astro/Chevrolet Titan are Class 8 cabover-engine (COE) trucks, sold in both single and tandem rear axle configurations.
That was the case for essentially all cars and trucks back then. Later heavy COE-trucks with continental success -some more than others- were the Scania 0 and 1-series (110/111 and 140/141), the DAF 2800-series and the Mercedes-Benz NG (Neue Generation).
The air ride DLR8000 model was technically still available, but only through 1961, after which time it was dropped. This fun and decorative handmade metal sign will look great in your home, office or garage! Maybe they need to keep management away from design and engineering, and let marketing only deal with dealers. The advanced frame design and then reversion to conventional frame design is paralleled by the pickup line from 1961-1966. i agree with you that GM’s hubris was at blame here. Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. Biggest problem with these trucks was their high cost, which really wasn’t justified by the unique features. Real decent tires.
Not inconsequential for hooking trailers all day long. Sure, they sold a good number, but the truck market was expanding very rapidly during those decades. Unless you’re in India where there’s Ashok Leyland. The DLR’s X-braced frame (left) is even visible. Excellent. The team that drilled a new well for me last September showed up in a 55 year old Crackerbox day cab with an 8-71. Article by Hank Hill.
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